nc43bike

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 10:46:13 PM
Sneakers55: 'Most of the writers on here are Socialists when it comes to the prices they want to pay, but they are Capitalists on the size of their paycheck."
Boy, you sure hit THAT on the head!
Lots of comments about how gasoline should go back to 79 cents per gallon, but nary a thought about wages also going back to 1950's levels.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:23:24 PM
regasaz wrote:
>Number 1 is to get this country back to work, and our >current administration has NO Clue on how to make that >happen.
The previous Administration (Bush-43) had NO clue about what was going on in the real world.
>Next, get rid of the UAW
While I have seen at least three decertification elections in the aerospace business, I doubt that you'll see them in the automotive business.
>let auto prices adjust to their proper level
What's the "proper level?" It's probably as blatantly ridiculous as the "proper level" for gasoline.
Most of the writers on here are Socialists when it comes to the prices they want to pay, but they are Capitalists on the size of their paycheck.
>and watch car sales start to move forward.
Everyone has so many cars nowadays that they don't need another one. And because they last longer than they used to, there's less replacement.
On the other hand, maybe the auto industry should discontinue their rust-resistant construction techniques so vehicles would last about two years in a salt-spreading environment.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:09:49 PM
RobRD wrote:
>Unlike Mulally who came from a manufacturing background >even more complex than the auto industry, Whitacre's >experience in the telecommunication sector which hasn't >built anything more complex than telephone switch
Southwestern Bell (the core of today's AT&T) bought their telephone switches already assembled. Even with that, the telecommunications business has to implement a HUGE network.
Ed Whitacre was around for the implementation of Project Pronto ("fiber to the hut"). It let them implement U-verse.
And remember, the POTS telephone network invariably gives you a dial tone when you pick up the handset.
>I think we will see GM back in bankruptcy and Whitacre >reputation tattered.
If GM does a Chapter 7, I would think it was a lost cause in the first place.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 9:02:04 PM
Amplion droned out yet another time:
>What you drive reflects WHO YOU ARE .......
I guess that means if you drive a Ford that you're guilty of anti-Semitism. Read a bit about Henry Ford's honors by the Nazis.
[Edited by: Sneakers55 at 3/11/2010 11:02:49 PM EST]
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:56:23 PM
MidNJ wrote:
>FYI, Ed Whitacre Jr. is going to get a $9 million pay >package this year.
Most of it is in the form of restricted stock that will have an indefinite value until General Motors Company completes its Initial Public Offering.
>Think about it.
Whitacre is cheap at twice the price, and the Board of Directors consists of retired CEOs with experience turning around and/or building up great companies.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:52:37 PM
humblepie wrote:
>he made att an also ran during his less than steller >years there
As someone who has U-verse installed and running, I have a very high opinion of AT&T.
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OHMS

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:55:24 PM
what did he expect? BO wants him to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic; now a happy ending in sight.
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Jo120

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:50:08 PM
So much for giving the guy a chance ... things have got to be going a little better which he Toyota debacle.
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ops3

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:41:40 PM
Inherit the good stuff, inherit the bad!
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goodbuy

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:38:31 PM
Fire them all and start over. Management too old fashioned anyway. It was just a good ole boy network.
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mark1962

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Albany
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:37:52 PM
It is tough out there and other places that don't have any industry!
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snewwee

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:37:44 PM
GM is like a sinking ship with all of the rats looking for their liferafts (pension deals).
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NotTom

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:33:37 PM
people are afraid of change. But that is what GM needs now.
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tnsilvertip

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:28:54 PM
My impression is that the media and locals/insiders are uncomfortable, not Whitacre. I hope GM makes some positive changes cause they sure need to. And the UAW needs to figure out that they need GM more than GM needs them.
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POLELANE

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:20:47 PM
a new yorker is right; Are the journalists concerned that they may also lose their jobs as the Detroit region continues its march into decline, and will be unable to afford as many newspaper employees? American automobiles are made all over the USA; Not just in Mitchigan
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sillywagon

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:18:27 PM
Are the journalists concerned that they may also lose their jobs as the Detroit region continues its march into decline, and will be unable to afford as many newspaper employees? American automobiles are made all over the USA, not just in Detroit.
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DellMan

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Omaha
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:18:04 PM
He is only a figure head anyway. We all know Obama and the UAW are really calling the shot at GM.
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mvosevich

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:14:02 PM
If GM doesn't improve their products they'll all be out on the street.
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:12:30 PM
Nothing really changes. GM is still run by the UAW at the expense of the customers and now the taxpayers.
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netman044

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Texas
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:59:12 PM
He is the CEO of a company that was bailed out by the government. If he can't stand the heat he needs to get out of the kitchen.
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la90042

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:56:30 PM
he's still the CEO -means the buck stops there - what did he expect?
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starfighter08

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:52:48 PM
GM = Government Motors
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signwiz

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:52:37 PM
It couldn't last forever.
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SSchmidty

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:52:21 PM
Pity party poopers, will the press ever understand? THEY do not run anything and their REPORTING efforts are not very good!!
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zeddieiv

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:51:15 PM
yay!
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divebomber

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Nebraska
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:50:58 PM
A scapegoat is always necessary
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nimpy

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:45:51 PM
I agree Wilw
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WilW

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:42:30 PM
We own him. Let's cut his pay!
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comet64

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:37:47 PM
Why should the CEO' get all the money
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uptherefiners

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:32:44 PM
gee, the media picking on the wrong guy...whodathunkit?
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brus282

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:31:35 PM
Whitacre is a jacka-- and everybody in the auto world knows this, so this no suprise
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bbreff

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:27:35 PM
What else would you expect from the big three from Detroit.
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swrestler

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:26:29 PM
No big deal.....
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pulpwood

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:19:55 PM
Bunch of back bitters!
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emptytank08

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:17:30 PM
Hmmmmmmmm to bad
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pgerassi

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 5:06:57 PM
So what.
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MidNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:56:26 PM
FYI, Ed Whitacre Jr. is going to get a $9 million pay package this year.
Think about it.
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vegaland

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:55:09 PM
If GM hadn't taken the bailout money, there'd be a lot more people out of work.
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HankHill09

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:53:53 PM
yawn.
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scrounger

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:53:29 PM
should we shed a tear for him?
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Amplion

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:50:10 PM
GM, Whitacre and UAW better ALL face the facts, They are ALL on the way out.
What you drive reflects WHO YOU ARE .......
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pkhdonovan

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Maine
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:48:10 PM
I agree with virginia52, what did he expect open arms.
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virginia52

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Alaska
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:43:28 PM
I think a lot of corporate people are getting blasted. We are sick of the CEO's getting big paychecks and bonuses while people lose their jobs and houses. Even if it's not his doing he is part of a corporation that took bailout money.
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pmarsch

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:40:34 PM
Must be a slow news day. Someone missed the recall on the Tundras today!
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waynemustang

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:37:18 PM
Govt Motors run by a bureaucrat should be shunned.
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humblepie

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:32:18 PM
this guy should be selling kirby vacuums door to door he made att an also ran during his less than steller years there
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THEDodgeman

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Denver
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:31:59 PM
BOO HOO WHAT DID HE EXPECT.
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k2kipp

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:30:53 PM
Must be a slow news day
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garman87

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Austin
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:29:29 PM
GM is still doomed due to the same mistakes they make over and over.
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regasaz

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 4:28:26 PM
Number 1 is to get this country back to work, and our current administration has NO Clue on how to make that happen. Next, get rid of the UAW , let auto prices adjust to their proper level, and watch car sales start to move forward.
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